Przebrzydła szumowino, pachołku moskiewski, Ty farbowana świnio, marszałku kurewski Chamie zbuntowany, zatęchła sklerozo Gnoju zasmarkany, ty zdrajco "ZOMZO"
Gnido zarzygana, jadowita mendo Ty kukło gówniana, kacapski przybłędo Tchórzu zajadany, ropiejący strupie Padalcu rozdeptany, ty wrzodzie na dupie.
Ty diabelskie łajno, ty głupi żołdaku Ty kurwo sprzedajna, ty ruski zupaku Wypierdku Breżniewa, ty ślepy pedale Kurduplu tępogłowy, ty głupi bęcwale
Ty sukinsynie śmierdzący, pluskwo zasuszona Wrzodzie ropiejący, ty małpo zielona Ty strachu na wróble, zboczony sadysto Judaszu za rabie, tępawy marksisto.
Sounds based. I've only seen /pol/ish trolls who are able to perform only one single function of their life - to showcase Poland as THE rusophobic state of the world, where being a anti-russian extremist nazi bigot who is nothing but a beast and is proud of it is not just fine, but is normal and approved. They glow bright af.
>>136375 the problem with Poland politics is that there's no point for their political ruling class, if they're friendly with Russians
and since civilians are not pro catholic ISIS any more, there's basically no difference between a Russian and a Pole
if anything, we would hate on pope together for pulling the 2nd Vatican congress and shitting all over everything and anything that was good in the Catholicism
bringing Poles closer to Christianity would force papists to review their sinful degenerate ways
but again, since that would just make their political class obsolete, this won't happen in the near future
>>138113 Вы 250 лет были в нашем подчинении. С 1709 года по 1795 были нашим протекторатом. С 1795 по 1917 были нашей провинцией. С 1944 по 1989 были нашей сучкой. Русские солдаты и казаки использовали польских женщин как общественный туалет, пока ваши предки-куколды на это смотрели. Пшек - это природный раб Русского.
>>133526 (OP) I like polish creativity, it already shows that it's not some useless country - look at how many games they made, they deserve to exist and be their own land. Wish it wouldn't come to another annual Poland demolition, but i don't get my hopes high, polish government is wildly anti-russian, acting like a spearhead for totalitarian pieces of shit known as EU.
I also don't remember any teacher, friend or a family member ever talking about Poland in a positive way. With ukranians we had friends, relatives and a history of productive cooperation, our people were often calling them brothers, but with polish we barely had anything going on AND it seems equally as russophobic as Ukraine, if not more.
>>141233 the problem is: poles and ruskis are super cool people but we both have greedy and fucked up politicians in power as leaders I'm polish and I like so much russian people, but our leaders keep making wars, fucking assholes
We are not good friends. No country had been a bigger piece of shit towards Poland. Poland is among countries with biggest percentage of population with negative view on russia. One of my biggest joys of everyday life is observing how russian statehood circles the drain, how it’s being humiliated on battlefield by Ukrainians. By now it’s obvious the decay will lead to total failure and years long crisis or even an end to russia as a political entity. Poland had been here before russia existed and will be after. You will not be missed.
>>146054 mam zle newsy kolego, nawet jak rosja spadnie z rowerka sobie glupi pysk rozbije to na jej miejscu pojawi sie kolejna iteracja odwiecznej hordy ontologicznie tozsama z dzisiejsza rosja i wszystko bedzie takie samo jak zawsze
>>146272 poles never even tried conquering russia as there never was anything of worth out there, we intervened in your succession crisis because your retardation started spilling into liefland which was our fief. we had to do the very same thing to germans in 1326 when their retardation started spilling into greater poland however they never claim we tried conquering brandenburg
>>146560 Poland was retardation incarnate itself, no "spilling" of it was ever needed. Eventually their retardation caught up to them and for the time being there was no Poland, which was an improvement for Eastern Europe.
>>146624 is that so? from what i sit it seems like decline of poland resulted in eastern europe getting invaded by asians and two centuries of demeaning poverty
>>133526 (OP) I admire Poland because they're absolute xenophobic bastards who kill or assimilate anyone who comes to Poland. Russians have much to learn.
>>146652 >decline of poland resulted in eastern europe getting invaded by asians and two centuries of demeaning poverty Decline of Poland resulted in decline of Poland, you are fucking genius mate, probalby thought really hard before making this brilliant conclusion.
>>146652 That's a bit of historical misrepresentation. Russia/USSR hardly was made of asians to any memeworthy "asian hordes" extents even during Mongol invasions, which while did set back development by a few centuries, etc, were also overblown in terms of specific kinds of cultural damage, in public eyes of Europe, in no small part due to their elites needing a convenient target to point their plebs towards. That's enough for net bants or ignorant kinds of elites, but not much more than that. >>146687 >free 'Scuse me, in what time period was Europe ever "free", excepting maybe hunter-gatherer times? >>146624 Poland was always fine as a state, don't be so scornful. Their only flaws are selling out to Christendom forma de Catolica, selling out their blood rooted ethnic pride for being a part of some Europe circa EU (lol) and being up their own ass in terms of Пан- mentality on occasions, - though in the latter case one can say that participating in slave trade isn't nationally exclusive, - which is both a historical truth and very flimsy notion. Russia, for all its numerous sins (abundance of which is par course for any imperfect polity, especially of such size, and after so many historical mutations and changes in leadership), didn't look down on other Slavic sub-ethnicities all that much. Polish historical leadership meanwhile contributed aplenty to halt creation of any true pure pan-Slavic state that would've encompassed all the tribes. That's not to say that they very the only ones, or that there was ever any attempt at constructing such, other than Russia, - which was Christendom too (purely by beating other religious and non-religious entities, naturally), monarchy turned empire, with Russians as primary nation-building ethnicity, with all the prices, but Christendom all the same, - but Poles riding their hungers didn't help. Not that they weren't in their right to pursue their own ambitions, mind you. But hindsight is 20/20, and frankly some things run deeper than social contracts. Excuses for contemporary moralities of most eras don't hold up under serious scrutiny.
And here I've basically forgotten what point I was making, lol
>>146979 >That's a bit of historical misrepresentation. it's not >Russia/USSR hardly was made of asians to any memeworthy "asian hordes" just like mongol empire those are but incarnations of the eternal horde, there's more to being asian than slanted eyes. >were also overblown in terms of specific kinds of cultural damage damage? tataromongols created your civilization and race hence muscovite propensity for oriental despotism, reason your historical architecture is so distinct from any european architecture, unique centralization of the state etc. >Polish historical leadership meanwhile contributed aplenty to halt creation of any true pure pan-Slavic state that would've encompassed all the tribes. yeah because we don't want to be a part of your horde. never have, never will. >>147039 what do we even have in common other than our languages sounding vaguely similar?
>>147064 >just like mongol empire those are but incarnations of the eternal horde, there's more to being asian than slanted eyes. Any historian worth their salt will at bare minimum raise their eyebrows at such historical illiteracy and such scornful "romanticism". There never was any true true torch passing between the two polities beyond more pragmatic practices and damage. Mongols of those times were nomads, and some people in current Mongolia still live such comfy, peaceful life. Their interests are as varied as any human's, but their mentality is different. Imperial tendencies of Russia are a natural product of Slavic tribal disposition, i.e. military democracies that eventually became superceded by feodalism with complex details. This tendency is one that Poles in fact share, and to which Poland owed its past land acquisitions, which makes such disdain from you and Baltics et al hypocritical. >damage? tataromongols created your civilization and race hence muscovite propensity for oriental despotism, reason your historical architecture is so distinct from any european architecture, unique centralization of the state etc. Patently incorrect on all cases. What would become "Rus" predates both the Duchy of Moscow, Kiev and Christianization of Rus. Moscow was simply participating in infighting between different knyaz holdings and cities of its time. Mongol invasion happening at most inopportune times and Moscow being sufficiently far away certainly helped, but it wasn't improbable for any other city to win, before or after. Regardless, the Rus state was already in the works by that time.
What you call "oriental despotism" isn't any more effectively different from literally any other Christianity based monarchical rule anywhere in Europe, complete with occasional ruler mistakes, economical and bloodshed excesses, the latter of which ironically were in lesser quantity than in Europe proper. Feodalism did take harder toll on Russian peasantry and social development in comparison to European societies (sort of, the West rarely if ever was bereft of social stratification), but its negative effects were compensated by different moral principles in rulership, even if all of the noble intentions blew up and were tossed out by commies, only to be picked up. Europe, in comparison, owes its social shift and current era of eroding peace and prosperity to bankers, bourgeoisie and corporations, whose mass pillaging enterprises, - that are also no more different than any other economically interested conquest in human history, in spirit of their actions, - grew into the very transnational corporations that wear all these nations like skinsuits.
Russian architecture is different for the same reason any architecture is different. It is all about resources and environmental conditions. Wood is more readily available, is abundant, and lends itself to certain kinds of artistic woodcutting. Add Christianity, mix it with various ornamentation, including pre-Christian ones, and you get the end result.
All European architecture is distinct from one another. You simply don't pay attention to its complexity, and look no farther than specific areas and times, not considering intents, purposes and, where applicable, payrollers. Heavy stone buildings are for instance meant to store heat better in winter. Little Ice Age did impact architecture. As European climate is becoming hotter, this is becoming a serious problem, as recent events in France, with ~1k casualties, have shown. And this is one period of somewhat "homogenized" design, mind you. Had any other European faction were to make different history, architecture would follow. I doubt Charlemagne's adventures left everyone happy. You sure don't see Grand Frisian architecture anywhere, do you, hmmm? And that's just one man. >yeah because we don't want to be a part of your horde. never have, never will. That's the joke, boy. All of those narratives are made to keep plebs and elites in line. You don't have any proper agency neither in terms of mono-slavicism, nor in terms modern Poland as a truly sovereign nation. Banal proclamations of adversarial nature based on dumbest and crudest ideological reasons possible, some of which are purely made up outright solely to maintain us vs them pressure, - sovereignty do not make. All of Europe is ruled by pure sellouts. Might have been so for awhile, if late Oswald Mosley's speech is to be considered. <
Back in the past (and now too) it was Vatican that was your far distant master, now it's technocratic corporations, big money, and their executives arms. I honestly suggest to you to: Rethink this simple national tribalism of yours, - so as to not look like an easily exploitable fool. Study history, - because reality is exceedingly complex. And learn a very simple thing. Nations and ethnic groups are nothing more than groups of people running on abstract agreements. Any claims of allegiance or tribal mentalities only have value when they are actual, rather than obfuscated behind a mass of nondescript people with covetous hungers for resources that are abstracted behind that deliberate, nation-poisoning-dishonesty making nondescription AND whom are at once ruled by a committee of even more nondescript profit seekers - and still no claim or allegiance gives them any prerogative over any other take or disposition of any kind, because you're just a bunch of people, looking to live. Any pretenses ARE and WILL BE subject to scrutiny.
>>147154 >There never was any true true torch passing between the two polities muscovy was but a rump state of the mongol horde, just like all the other neighboring khaganates, inherited it's political system, social cohesion and the whole shebang straight from mongols >Mongols of those times were nomads semi-nomands with a city complex at karakorum >This tendency is one that Poles in fact share, and to which Poland owed its past land acquisitions, which makes such disdain from you and Baltics et al hypocritical. plc was created solely to pool resources to keep raids of asiatic people - muscovites and tatars - at bay if that's what you mean >What would become "Rus" predates both the Duchy of Moscow, Kiev and Christianization of Rus. Moscow was simply participating in infighting between different knyaz holdings and cities of its time. what would become rus has no relation to what would become muscovy it's completely two different civilizations on two different rivers inhabited by completely different people. in volga basin it was volga finns in the north and assorted turkics in the south with ancestors of russians emerging as they crossbred. these people got conquered by rus in late 900s and remained a part of it until early 1200s which is your whole relation to the slavic thing. urbanization of moscow proper all done by mongols. >What you call "oriental despotism" the term is as old as history itself, first observed during greko-persian wars >isn't any more effectively different from literally any other Christianity based monarchical rule anywhere in Europe but it is: european monarchies were decentralized with power delegated to gentry - muscovy was a centralized rule with tax collectors instead as the whole political system was copied straight from mongols >It is all about resources and environmental conditions. Wood is more readily available, is abundant, and lends itself to certain kinds of artistic woodcutting. other than iberia and peleoponese wood used to be abundant across all europe >All European architecture is distinct from one another. not really. south is very distinct, central is distinct and north is distinct. >You sure don't see Grand Frisian architecture anywhere, do you, hmmm? you actually do see antwerp style spanning from britany all the way to liefland >mono-slavicism what's that even supposed to be? there was never a single slavic speaking people, there never will be and frankly russians shouldn't even be considered a slavic people as russians are a mix of finns, khazars and admirably slavs (and that is only thanks to russian empire's race mixing policies) it doesn't make you one of us per se any more than it makes you finns of turkics.
this whole rant is very loosely related to the topic. here's a map of castles - you can clearly see civilizational divide on it